What are Grandfathered PLans?
Grandfathering means that if your coverage was in place on 9.23.2010, when the Affordable Care Act was enacted, President Obama promised that you could keep it, see also USA Today as long as there were no “major” changes to your coverage.
However, UNCovered CA, did NOT honor that! Covered CA forced insurers to cancel policies!
8 questions to determine Grandfathered status
Check out the Health Net Flyer where it explains that if health plans significantly raise co-payments or deductibles, or if they significantly reduce benefits – for example, if they stop covering treatment for a disease like HIV/AIDS or cystic fibrosis – they’ll lose their grandfathered status and their customers will get the same full set of consumer protections as new plans. (healthreform.gov)
View this chart for the differences in the Mandates for NEW plans and for the Older Grandfathered Plans.
Health Net 8 Questions
To see if your plan is Grandfathered
Advantage of a Grandfathered Plan
The primary one is that in 2014 the rating for the nongrandfathered plans will be subject to additional taxes and fees. These could total upwards of 50% higher than a comparable grandfathered plans. Since the rates will be so much higher than the grandfathered plans we feel it would be a good idea to keep those plans until at least we see how the rates look like in 2014.Excerpt of Email Rec’d 1.25.2013 from a Major Insurance Company
Government says NO
in Q & A on their website at healthreform.gov
Individual Grandfathered plans are “closed” plans, no longer sold to new applicants. It is possible that premiums or costs may increase because new, healthy applicants are no longer being added to the closed “pool” of members. Premium changes for all plans, whether “closed” or open to new sales, are driven by several factors. These include increased consumer demand for services, rising prescription drug costs, advances in medical technology, and benefits and/or taxes required by state and federal legislation. Blue Cross Flyer
- make some changes to the benefits their plans offer,
- raise premiums or change employee cost-sharing to keep pace with health costs within some limits, and
- continue to enroll new employees and their families.
The bottom line is that under the Affordable Care Act, if you like your doctor and plan, you can keep them, subject to “Narrow Lists.” But if you aren’t satisfied with your insurance options today, the Affordable Care Act provides for better, more affordable health care choices through new consumer protections. (healthreform.gov)
Wikipedia on Health Reform & Grandfathering
No more RAF – Rating Adjustment Factor §10753.14 in Employer Group Plans
Insurance Companies NOT offering Plans?
Thus the End of Grand Fathering?
It looks like Grandfathering is OVER for Individual Plans in 2015.
Blue Cross is dropping 79 plans.
California Health Line 10.3.2014 reports Blue Cross, Kaiser and various other insurers are not renewing pre ACA plans, that don’t have the 10 essential benefits and other provisions of ACA.
- Which will be less expensive Grandfathered or Not?
- Is there any difference in Premium Taxes or other fees or taxes imposed by Health Care Reform?
- Blue Shield Info and Tools on Grandfathering
General Client Resources & Links
Research & Technical Links
If you change to a different plan, but with the same Insurance Company and
the same rules in your Employee Handbook, is the plan still grandfathered?
- ***Grandfathering means that if your coverage was in place on 9.23.2010, when the Affordable Care Act was enacted, President Obama promised that you could keep it, as long as there were no “major” changes to you coverage. See 8 Questions to see.
- Question We have, per our [Employee] Handbook, carved out a [Management] carve outs, class of covered employees. this has been in force well before 2010
- We are a small business, less than 10 employees
- the covered employees have always been just 2. One of the employees recently went into medicare. since needed 2 employees to make a group
- ***That’s not exactly correct, see §10753 (q) (1) “Small employer”
- we converted to an individual plan for the remaining employee. The plan stayed with the same insurance co. but not in our companies name.
- So, would this still be be considered “grandfathered?
- Answer ***No. Sounds like major changes to me. Check this links for details about cutting or lowering coverage, coinsurance, payments, deductibles, employer contributions, annual limits. HealthCare.gov * BlueShieldCA.com * Our Page on Grandfathering * HN Flyer
- While it doesn’t appear that Salary Discrimination under Section 2716 is being enforced, you can’t call an Individual Plan a Group plan, nor can your company take the deduction under IRC Section 106!
- Whatever happened to grandfathered #rates & premiums our our policy. Seems that every time the policy renews it’s a lesser coverage?
- Grandfathered plans has nothing to do with stopping rate increases or changes in benefits at policy renewal. Grandfathering means that the plan can stay basically the same as it was, if you had the plan before February 2010 when the ACA was passed.
- Insurance rates, premiums, benefits, deductibles are basically a function of the Medical Loss Ratio medical-loss-ratio-mrl/
- Which means that the Insurance Companies are mandated to pay out 80 cents in claims on every dollar they take in, in premium. So, the more they pay in claims, the more they have to charge in premiums.
Anthem Blue Cross Grandfathered PLans being #discontinued!
Anthem Blue Cross will be discontinuing the grandfathered plans below, the rest of their plans are good. The last day of coverage for these plans is December 31, 2022.
- Contract Code Plan description
- 1518 Basic 1000
- 7900 Basic 1000
PE25 Basic 1000
PE26 Basic 1000
- 7900 Basic 1000
- Z165 SmartSense 2500 Full RX
- Z166 SmartSense 2500 Full RX email dated 6.23.2022 *
- Anthem Blue Cross will let you know your options sample letter for selecting a new plan during
Blue Cross doesn't have any downgrade options - that is, the ability to just select a different grandfathered plan. You'll have to
Affected members will still receive rate action notifications through the end of the year.
- Old Brochures
- Our main webpage for Blue Cross Individual
My husband and I have the same grandfathered plan through anthem as of January of 2010.
I have been advised by them that my plan will be discontinued due to lack of participation but he has not received any such notice.
We have had several discussions with them about this with multiple representatives. It’s the smart sense z280.
Any advice on our next move?
We are still awaiting confirmation that the plan is actually being discontinued.
Did you get a bill for January?
The Smart Sense z280 is not on the list above that they sent to agents on 6.23.2022.
You can get alternative quotes here
I’m not authorized to tell you that you’re safe. All I can say is, your plan isn’t on the list.
If you send me a copy of your ID card, [email protected] I might be able to get written confirmation. I say might, because I’m not your agent and on the grandfathered policies, Blue Cross doesn’t take agent change requests unless the old agent agrees.
on grandfathered plan – renewal rates & benefits
I have a grandfathered plan with Blue Shield and there is CA surcharge of $34.75 on a $1741.25 premium for two people.
What is this surcharge all about?
Here’s the reply from Blue Shield:
The surcharge is for Grandfather plans only and will be a reoccurring charge until recovery of the 2017 Penn Treaty is completed.
The 2017 Penn Treaty Class B Assessment levied by California Life & Health Insurance Guarantee Association, also known as The Guarantee Association.
Per our IFP renewal information, the surcharge is to not exceed more than 0.02 per dollar of premium. The surcharge is a result of Penn Treaty Network American Insurance Company and their long term care insurance companies that went insolvent back on March 1, 2017. The Guarantee Association imposed an assessment on all other California licensed life & health insurance companies for the funds necessary to provide protection, with Blue Shield of California being one of the companies. The Guarantee Association has allowed the assessed companies to charge members the surcharge to recoup the Penn Treaty assessment.
If more information is needed about the assessment, Penn Treaty and the Guarantee Association, please go to califega.org or call (916) 631-1581, or lastly, the California Department of Insurance, Consumer Communications Bureau at (800) 927-4357.
Reference number: 203150011167