How does one add back in
social security benefits that were not included in income on line 5a  of their 1040 to
calculate MAGI for Covered CA or Medi-Cal?

What are my Social Security Retirement Benefits?

In general, all your Social Security counts when calculating  MAGI-Modified Adjusted Gross Income (AGI), that  is the bottom line number on line 8b  on your 1040 tax return then add back in the difference between line 5a & 5b of your 1040.

Please note that neither I nor Covered CA give tax advice.  Here’s where Covered CA’s advise caused someone to pay back $13k in subsidies.

Count Gross Social Security Income

Here’s where Covered CA asks about Social Security Income

See our FAQ’s about figuring out MAGI Income on your own and just entering the final number, rather then get caught in the quagmire of answering all the Covered CA questions where they try to help you, but I see too many people get sucked into the quick sand.

 

#Line8b now 11 Adjusted Gross income then add line 2a, 6a &   8 (Foreign Income)

to get Covered CA MAGI Income

MAGI Income from 1040

1040 Form   ***  Schedule 1  Additional Income & Adjustments to Income

Steve's Video on MAGI Income  *  Covered CA's Video *

Summary of what is taxable (SSA.Gov)

Some people have to pay federal income taxes on their Social Security benefits. This usually happens only if you have other substantial income (such as wages, self-employment, interest, dividends and other taxable income that must be reported on your tax return) in addition to your benefits.

No one pays federal income tax on more than 85 percent of his or her Social Security benefits based on Internal Revenue Service (IRS) rules. If you:

  • file a federal tax return as an “individual” and your combined income* is
    • between $25,000 and $34,000, you may have to pay income tax on up to 50 percent of your benefits.
    • more than $34,000, up to 85 percent of your benefits may be taxable.
  • file a joint return, and you and your spouse have a combined income* that is
    • between $32,000 and $44,000, you may have to pay income tax on up to 50 percent of your benefits
    • more than $44,000, up to 85 percent of your benefits may be taxable.
  • are married and file a separate tax return, you probably will pay taxes on your benefits.

*Note:

Your adjusted gross income
+ Nontaxable interest
+ ½ of your Social Security benefits
= Your “combined income
.

Each January you will receive a Social Security Benefit Statement (Form SSA-1099) showing the amount of benefits you received in the previous year. You can use this Benefit Statement when you complete your federal income tax return to find out if your benefits are subject to tax.

Your Social Security Benefits May be Taxable

If you receive Social Security benefits, you may have to pay federal income tax on part of your benefits. These IRS tips will help you determine if you need to pay taxes on your benefits.

  • Form SSA-1099. If you received Social Security benefits in 2015, you should receive a Form SSA-1099, Social Security Benefit Statement, showing the amount of your benefits.
  • Only Social Security. If Social Security was your only income in 2015, your benefits may not be taxable. You also may not need to file a federal income tax return. If you get income from other sources you may have to pay taxes on some of your benefits.
  • Free File. Use IRS Free File to prepare and e-file your tax return for free. If you earned $62,000 or less, you can use brand-name software. The software does the math for you and helps avoid mistakes. If you earned more, you can use Free File Fillable Forms. This option uses electronic versions of IRS paper forms. It’s best for people who are used to doing their own taxes. Free File is available only by going to IRS.gov/freefile.
  • Interactive Tax Assistant. You can get answers to your tax questions with this helpful tool and see if any of your benefits are taxable. Visit IRS.gov and use the Interactive Tax Assistant tool.
  • Tax Formula. Here’s a quick way to find out if you must pay taxes on your Social Security benefits: Add one-half of your Social Security to all your other income, including tax-exempt interest. Then compare the total to the base amount for your filing status. If your total is more than the base amount, some of your benefits may be taxable.
  • Base Amounts. The three base amounts are:
    • $25,000 – if you are single, head of household, qualifying widow or widower with a dependent child or married filing separately and lived apart from your spouse for all of 2015
    • $32,000 – if you are married filing jointly
    • $0 – if you are married filing separately and lived with your spouse at any time during the year

Each and every taxpayer has a set of fundamental rights they should be aware of when dealing with the IRS. These are your Taxpayer Bill of Rights. Explore your rights and our obligations to protect them on IRS.gov.

See also publication 915 Social Security Benefits

Covered CA Subsidies – MAGI Income – Social Security?

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Do Social Security #Survivor Benefits count for MAGI?

YES.  See Covered CA countable income above.

 

Is child survivors benefits counted as income even if son is not listed as dependent?

Is your child a member of the household?  Check out this Flow Chart

Why isn’t the child on the tax return?

Is your child eligible to be listed as a dependent under IRS Section 152?

 

Are Social Security survivor benefits for children considered taxable income?

Yes, under certain circumstances, although a child generally will not receive enough additional income to make the child’s Social Security benefits taxable.

  • The taxability of benefits must be determined using the income of the person entitled to receive the benefits.
  • If you and your child both receive benefits, you should calculate the taxability of your benefits separately from the taxability of your child’s benefits.
  • The amount of income tax that your child must pay on that part of the benefits that belongs to your child depends on the child’s total amount of income and benefits for the taxable year.

To find our whether any of the child’s benefits may be taxable, compare the base amount for the child’s filing status with the total of:

  • One-half of the child’s benefits.
  • All the child’s other income, including tax-exempt interest.

If the child is single, the base amount for the child’s filing status is $25,000. If the child is married, see Publication 915Social Security and Equivalent Railroad Retirement Benefits, for the applicable base amount and the other rules that apply to married individuals receiving Social Security benefits.

If the total of (1) one half of the child’s Social Security benefits and (2) all the child’s other income is greater than the base amount that applies to the child’s filing status, part of the child’s Social Security benefits may be taxable. You can figure the taxable amount of the benefits on a worksheet in the Instructions for Form 1040Instructions for Form 1040A, or in Publication 915.

Additional Information:

  • Tax Topic 423 – Social Security and Equivalent Railroad Retirement Benefits
  • 42 CFR 435.603  for Medicaid  – ….determining ongoing eligibility for beneficiaries determined eligible for Medicaid – Medi-Cal coverage … financial methodologies set forth in this section ….renewal of eligibility for such individual under § 435.916 of this part, whichever is later.
    • (2) Income of children and tax dependents.
      (i) The MAGI-based income of an individual who is included in the household of his or her natural, adopted or step parent and is not expected to be required to file a tax return under section 6012(a)(1) of the Code for the taxable year in which eligibility for Medicaid is being determined, is not included in household income whether or not the individual files a tax return.
      (ii) The MAGI-based income of a tax dependent described in paragraph (f)(2)(i) of this section who is not expected to be required to file a tax return under section 6012(a)(1) of the Code for the taxable year in which eligibility for Medicaid is being determined is not included in the household income of the taxpayer whether or not such tax dependent files a tax return.

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10 comments on “Social Security Benefits MAGI Covered CA Income Subsidies

  1. We are legal guardians to our granddaughter. She is part of Kin gap. She receives as survivor benefits.

    Does that 7,200 count as income towards our covered California total income.

    We are confused.

  2. Is my 10,920 in Social Security added in as MAGI?

    I have 62,368 of Adjusted Gross Income.

    I read your article on it and there was a footnote 4. I couldn’t read it.

  3. I am currently on Medi-Cal.

    I may have the opportunity to increase my income to $1.980/mo. (Not sure if this matters – my current income includes early social security $720/mo. in which case, they will take back 50% of every dollar I make over $1,600/mo.)

    Need quote in case my income increases.

    • Is your early Social Security SSDI or do you mean you are taking it a age 62, before your full retirement age?

      If you are taking it early, say age 62 and not disabled the rules about taxation are above and on these two webpages:

      Social Security Benefits

      Social Security Publication # 10069 explains the situation.

      If benefits are withheld Social Security will eventually pay them back to you. See their publication.

      You can get a quote and subsidy calculation based on your expected MAGI Income by clicking here.

      This chart shows how much you can make and still be on Medi-Cal, Enhanced Silver – Cost Sharing reductions or when you earn more than what gets you Covered CA subsidies.

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