What are the Pros & Cons of not enrolling in
Part B Medicare,
when one is living outside of the USA and covered under
the National Health Insurance Program of another country?
Since Medicare benefits are available only in the United States, it may not be to your advantage to pay the premium for Part B medical insurance if you will be out of the United States for a long period of time. But be aware that when you return and sign up for Part B, your premium will be 10% higher for each 12-month period you could have been enrolled in Part B, but were not.
If you return to the United States, you must re-enroll in Part B, but you may only do so from January through March each year, your benefits will not begin until July, (Check out the Petersen Bridge Plan if you need coverage while waiting for Part B to start) and you may have to pay a premium penalty. CA Health Care Advocates HICAP
See also our page on Part B late enrollment penalty
So, how do I figure out the penalty vs paying the premium, which is better?
Your Initial Enrollment Period ended September 30, 2009. You waited to sign up for Part B until the General Enrollment Period in March 2012. Your Part B premium penalty is 20%. (While you waited a total of 30 months to sign up, this included only 2 full 12-month periods.) You’ll have to pay this penalty for as long as you have Part B. Enrolling in Medicare # 11036 *
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Jeremy turned 65 in 2011. He did not sign up for Medicare Part B until 2017.
His penalty is:
10% x 6 years = 60 His penalty is thus 60% on top of the premium 0.6 X $134 (2017 Part B premium) = $80.40 penalty $80.40 + $134= $214.4 Jeremy will pay $214.4 on a monthly basis as his penalty Part B premium. United Medicare Advisors So, how does the penalty compare to if he had paid the $134 premium for 6 years?
10 years to even out
Here’s where a web site visitor did a spread sheet.
Spreadsheets are beyond my pay grade.
Bibliography
medicare.gov/part-b-late-enrollment-penalty
Enrolling for Part A & B #11036 Page 28 Living outside USA Part B…
Medi Gap Plans from Anthem Blue Cross –
Click for Information and ONLINE enrollment
Medicare A & B if you don't live in USA
#11871
Residency Rules to maintain USA coverage for MAPD
Medicare just visiting Out of County Publication # 11037
Medicare VIDEO Medicare & You: Traveling Abroad
Our webpage on Medicare Coverage outside of USA
Payments if you are living outside of USA # 10137
Buy Travel & International Insurance – Geo Blue – Insubuy
International Travel – HMO visiting other states? Out of Country $50 ER
Our webpage on Traveling - Not living outside USA
Medicare #Enrolling in Parts A & B # 11036
Our Webpage on Enrolling in Medicare A & B
Enroll ONLINE for Medicare Part A Hospital & B Doctor Visits
- Part A Hospital rules for zero premium
- Part B – Doctors – How to sign up – Benefits
- How to apply for Part B during your special enrollment period # 10012
- Fact Sheet
Deciding Whether to Enroll in Medicare Part A and Part B When You Turn 65 15 pages - Here's the CMS form to fill out L 564 E to get a special enrollment period, when you retire. VIDEO
- Here's the actual form to get Part B, if you already have Part A OMB No. 0938-1230 !
- If you need both, see our main webpage on Medicare Enrollment.
Can we temporary on hold the Part B and part D premium (Medigap as well as Medicare Advantage), if we stay outside of USA longer than 2 months or longer?
I’m not aware of any way to do that. You risk the Part B Late Enrollment Penalties and wouldn’t be able to get Part D Rx until the next open enrollment period.
So, see our information at the top of this page and the Part B Late Penalties and waiting period to re-enroll.
If you are out of country more than say 6 months… or change residency, you may lose Part D and MAPD.
Because I enrolled for Part A from abroad (Italy), and declined Part B, I became a candidate to receive an unsoliticed phone call from a US government employee in Rome who handles SS/Medicare issues!! This person wanted to make sure I understood the issues with respect to Part B penalties. This person was very helpful, but knew nothing about MediGap. He didn’t even know what it was.
It’s interesting to know that such employees exist.
More on computing Medicare penalties.
Medicare Part B penalties increment after each full year in which you could have had Part B but chose not to. What then is the date in which you could have had Medicare? You can sign up for Medicare for 3 months before eligibility, and if you do so your coverage date begins on the first day of the month of your 65th birthdate (unless your birthday is the 1st of the month). That, I believe, is the first date at which could have had Part B.
For example, if you decline Part B in your initial enrollent period in 2018 but opt for Part B in the first general enrollment period of 2019, your coverage will start July 1, 2019. If your birthday is in July, your full-year penalty clock will start on July 1 and will have traversed a full year. If your birthday is in August, the clock will start on August 1 and it will have been only 11 months … hence no penalty for that year.
So, it’s 20% of the standard premium amount for each year ongoing, and that standard premium amount subject to penalty will go up year over year.
Yes.
Unfortunately, there is a “bug” or “snafu” with the indenting system, so when you hit “reply” it doesn’t always show in the correct place. This happened a few months ago and then corrected itself…
Is the Medicare Part B penalty a fixed dollar amount or a percentage?
For example, if I sign up for part B after a year, and the base premium is $134/mth, my penalty in that year will be $13.40/month.
Suppose the premium the next year is $140. What will the penalty be in that year? $14 or $13.40?
Percentage – See page 7 of Publication 11036 Enrolling in Part A & B * CA Health Advocates.org *